Called Wahli by many confused researchers, Mother Vann was Joseph Vann's wife, but was born a Vann herself. They had four children, 3 boys and a girl. 1,645 followers. When James Watts was born in 1748, in Virginia, British Colonial America, his father, John Watts, was 24 and his mother, Tali Wurteh Red Paint Wadi, was 38. Norman James - The Little Shack on the Prairie - P Norman James - The Little Shack on the Praire, Co- Author Sharon Eileen Reed (Starr) Bio. Read Watt's account. I always knew I had Indian but did not know anything about my Heritage until now. He seems to have been the son of Trader John Watts and the brother of John Watts . Tail Sixkiller. I'be heard researchers say there is no Carpenter Cherokee connection and that it cannot be proved that Thomas Carpenter was ever married to a Cherokee woman or was a ship owner. He intended to attack Knoxville. Dave C Essary,his son,and Sarah Carter Essary reared my grandmother Minnie Malone (Essary), IN MY RECORDS SHE IS MARRIED T WILLIAM MCDANIEL DAUGHTER MARY MCDANIEL FATHER KANA-GATOGAWAS ESSARY FROM ANOTHER MARRIAGE? James Vann, William Springston, John Shepherd and Edward Adair: . If the family did not originate from Plymouth Devonshire England then where??? Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life.". Moytoy II Emperor of the Cherokees.I'm extremely interested in finding others who are descendants to Moytoy IIemail wsxr1 at yahoo dot com. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770.Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". The Booker line did intermarry with Cherokee. We collect and match historical records that Ancestry users have contributed to their family trees to create each persons profile. I have found their entries on the Dawes Roll, but would like to know more about my G-grandmother Emma, as we believe she was of full-blood.Stephanie11, Tamara10, Roscoe Eugene9, JOHN8, YELL CLEMENT7, GEORGE W6, JAMES5 WARD, CATHERINE KATIE4 MCDANIEL, GRANNY3 HOPPER (Grasshopper), OLD HOP2 (Kanagatucko), A-MA-DO-YA1 MOYTOYAny help would be greatly appreciated! Catherine "Katie" Copeland, born abt 1811 was married to Shadrack Jackson, my grandfather many times distant. Does anyone know the name of trader Jim, big Jim,White green's mother shawano woman's father was? Moytoy is considered to be full-blood by members of the Nation because his white father married Pride, a Shawnee. Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. If you just do your own research and study based on factual truth like I did, then you will see that this Thomas Pasmere Corn Planter Carpenter is nothing more than a made up fictional and fraudulent character. Ensign Thomas Ayres (to Oglethorpe) was of mixed blood but educated in England where his wealthy father, who was on the Georgia Board, found him a position with Oglethorpe. Clan: Ani'-W'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) Elizabeth Watts's income source is mostly from being a successful . I'd love to see your DNA results. Other than Cheerokee chief? . This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. She was the sister of John Watts, Cherokee Chief, also known as "Young Tassel". She and Joseph are my 4x-grands. In October 1788, following the murder of his uncle Old Tassel by frontiersmen, Watts led a large war party into North Carolina's Washington District (now Tennessee). That very same Vann who established his son James Vann from the vast wealth which he acquired in selling Kentucky. He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". Try using our image search and remember to check the name spelling. "Working with Elizabeth Watts was an absolute pleasure. I am researching my family tree and I came across the name ADAIR, and I decided to see where it went . The one is Oklahoma is closed to new members (How can a nation be closed to legitimate members of the nation? I am enrolled through my GGrandMother. Query: My great great grandmother, Elizabeth Floyd, married a Cherokee man, name unknown. I believe that Amatoya Moytoy I is my 10th great grandfather through his son Kanagatoga AKA ((Old Hop), ("Standing Turkey), (Cunne Shote) Moytoy but only if Conaleuski AKA Robert John Challange Wilson is his grandson (Amatoya MOytoy I grandson) I found it somewhere that he was the next line if so I would like to know how to become a card carrying member of one one the Cherokee tribes. I was beside myself with curiosity. 1 1 1 2 5 3 2 4 1 5: Nannie Polston. Sorry, no records were found for this exact name. Her Wikitree profile lists four husbands and five children. 5107126039. Yes, there is a lot of conflicting information out there. WELL we all Know what that started. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. Yes, the Vanns held slaves, and it wasn't only four or five Cherokee families who did so. I have found most of my info on Ancestry.com I know about as much as you! Watts was born in Norwich and attended Norwich High School for Girls. She married Thomas Lawson Kendrick on Oct 17, 1850 in Cherokee, North Carolina. Browse or search the Cherokee genealogy queries posted to All Things Cherokee in May 2011. -Heather. I was so excited when I saw my mom, that was the first thing I told her and she blurted out well you are on my side too. Verified. Read some real history, as it was prevalent among the 5ct. I am descended through Moytoy the Pigeon, Willenawah Great Eagle, Chief Doublehead, Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu, Nannie Riley. Does that ring a bell? I already consider myself Cherokee, but would love to officially sign up. I am a Tribal Citizen of The Cherokee Nation. But, that is a whole other story as it turned out to be Choctaw. (1750 - 1814) Photos: 39. She would interview me for multiple news stories and her reporting skills were excellent. "Chickamauga Cherokee Wars (1776-1794) - part 7 of 9", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Watts_(Cherokee_chief)&oldid=1130442447, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. According to my family tree results Amatoya Moytoy is my 8th great grandfather, so it seems we may actually be distantly related. Scott Wyatt (R-Mechanicsville) Senate A-H Sen. George Barker (D-Alexandria) Sen. John Bell (D-Chantilly) She never existed, there is not one schred of factual evidence that she was a real person. Elizabeth Watts is an American Emmy award-winning anchor who is currently working at KOAA. They often named their children for the virtues which they longed for, or identified with. Watts spurned any "national office." Trader was born in 1720, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. Many of us have done our DNA to further back up our paper trail evidence. Do you have a Mary Evia Carter Essary? Probably more Jewish than 90% of the European Jews runnin' around the world, playin' Indian like Dustin Hoffman in Little Big Man. Later in 1793, Watts sent envoys to Knoxville, which was at the time the capital of the Southwest Territory, to meet with Governor Blount to discuss terms for a lasting peace. Benge was a noted Cherokee Chief and raider of the upper Holston settlements. Which ties me to Chief Cornstalk "Peter I" and Moytoy II of Tellico. My grandmother was Dottie Starr. is there a free place to search dawes rolls? Documented ownership of fifteen different ships owned by the Carpenter family, those of which were involved with moving furs between the Gulf Ports & Glasgow, or Dublin, and trade goods for North America. Thank you. I AM TOO. According to my information. Sorry bro, never happened! I started to check out my matches and my second cousins on GEDMATCH. I can see why but I totally look Indian and am Cherokee, Choctaw, Shawnee. I have had a BIA card since I was about 11 (am 47 now), recently tested my DNA and it does show Native American. su-gi sookie moytoy is my 7th great grandmotherkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkey, if I am remembering correctly was su-gi's Father. In September 1792, Watts assembled a large gathering of Cherokee and Muscogee warriors (which included some cavalry). [1] Watts' parents resided in the Overhill Towns along the Little Tennessee River. Cet interrupteur multifonction de rechange convient aux modles Wrangler JK, 07-18 Compass /Patriot MK, 08-12 Liberty KK, 08-10 Commander XK et 08-10 Grand Cherokee WK. John Jolly (Due): John Jolly was a Cherokee chief, (half?) Thanks, William David McDaniel is one of my great grandfathers.email me with your information at cymayes46@gmail.com. This is my Email address blustar957@yahoo.com . I am doing my best to make sure my tree is correct, but I would never make any promises.My mother's tree name is Thelma Roxanna James at the above link. Beginning in 2002, she studied music at the Royal College of Music with Lillian Watson. Kathie gets out her big broom to clean up the mess! The only reply I got was from his wife who gave me his direct email and still no reply. The council signed the Treaty of Tellico Blockhouse in November, officially ending hostilities with the US. In reply to: Re: Daniel D. Watts - AL b. abt. As my Great grandmother had Irish Parents who came to Liverpool, England at the time of the Famine. I share your first few ancestors! Watts, was then living again in the Overhill area. Elizabeth worked as a news anchor and reporter for KOAA News5 from August 2016 to July 23, 2021. while there, she received quite a fulfilling amount. This is how rich the Vanns were back then. The young Watts was raised in Cherokee culture. . The direct descendant is Tame Doe Moytoy. I'm also related to them as well. There is a lot of back and forth on here. you can reach me at karynbishof10@gmail.comthank you so much! Dave C Essary his son reared my great grand mother Emmerline Emily Carter. White men and women who married Cherokees are then considered to be a member of the tribe. I just took a look & saw a Malachi Parris 1843 - 1906 on the Chapman Roll of the Eastern Cherokees. I have been told "Cherokee Woman" Agatagwi Kimmerling wa the daughter of Chief Amadajiyi Pidgeon of Tellico, Moytoy and she was married to Jacob Friedrich Kimmerling. James Vann was shot and killed in 1809 by his former friend Saunders for another reason. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. I believe William should be detached from Wurteh. Young Tassell married and had children with Mary Johnson (children John and Margaret Watts documented, others possible); Wurteagua Carpenter (Mink, John, Soup and Fish Tail, possible others); Oousta White Owl Hanging Maw (Thomas Rattling Gourd Watts, Two Wood, PeachEater, Elizabeth, Jacob Oostooli Z Watts, Councilor John J); and Tsiyugi (Rachel, John and Mary Polly) - each of these have been documented. We already know who our relatives are. Mullay Roll -1848 A listing of 1,517 Cherokees living in North Carolina after the removal of 1838 Agent John C. Mullay took the Census pursuant to an act of Congress in 1848. Her Wikitree profile lists four husbands and five children. Maybe he did and she had already fallen in love with George Booker. They run a great organization called The Rainbow House. Just asking! Help us find our relatives and know what being Cherokee means. William Dorton, Jr., s/o William & Elizabeth Dorton) born in the year 1750 died December 10, 1826. I have found record of Elizabeth Judd married to Benjimin Pennell burried in Winkler cemetary in Boone, NC. On the way to Knoxville, the war party encountered the small settlement of Cavett's Station. James and his mother also descend from several of the old Cherokee warriors you noted in your vitriolic post, as do I, so if anyone should be ashamed, it's not me for my ancestors, but you for spreading ignorant, easily debunked lies. I am also a descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. My information shows: Nancy Ward -- Tame Doe Raven -- Nancy Moytoy -- Chief Amatoya Moytoy. John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. We encourage you to research and examine these records to determine their accuracy. Ancestry dot com and other such sites just regurgitate old myths and family stories that are, more often than not, way off-base or flat-out untrue. I'm a descendent of stalking turkey. We were all born in Oklahoma and are also Scottish, being Duncan on both sides of my mothers family. He was Shawnee and he married his cousin Su-gi Rainmaker. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. people.com. Gentleman Tom was a good friend to James Vann. Bob Benge and his brother The Tail are described as the nephews of John Watts and great-nephews of Old Tassel, leading to the conclusion that their mother was the sister of John Watts. 2. I just was googling Attacullaculla's decendents and came across the name "Nancy Ward". [1] Her mother died about 1876 and she appears alone on the 1880 Cherokee census. Malachi was born in 1813 in Georgia and died in 1864 in Cane Hill, Arkansas. I am trying to verify the name of John L Dean on the Dawes Rolls. Catherine was of Cherokee lineage and had several family members on the Trail to OK. Any information you may have would be very helpful. On the way, the Cherokee leaders were discussing among themselves whether to kill all the residents of the settlement, or just the men. Nenetoonyah/Bloody Fellow; [[Moytoy-123]] This comes straight from a theory of James Hicks with zero documentation. Address: 14591 Cherokee Ln Malakoff, TX 75148 Name: Meagan M Johnson We have estimated Elizabeth Watts's net worth , money, salary, income, and assets. DNA test results DO NOT EVER prove even a tribe, much less descendancy from Moytoy. But I don't know if that means I am a member of a particular Cherokee tribe?? Elizabeth Watts Schrack. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was the father of John Jolly. This website is a total fraud witn no proofs or substantial evidence. I look forward to your textthank you so much and good luck to you all who are on a quest for documenting facts. She can't give you any sources, because their are none. Vann grabbed one small boy and pulled him onto his saddle, but Doublehead killed the boy with an axe. She was born in 1859, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation and is a full-blood Cherokee Indian. Shawnees had already had at least 150 years of euro-white contact by the time Thomas showed up as a trader. The name Pride is also consistant with many early american names such as Loving, Charity, Comfort, Patience, Simplicity, Mercy, Joy etc. Robert Due [ [Due-74]]: No . He was known as a trader in interpreter. Elizabeth said she was born June 15, 1848 in Monroe County, Tennessee and that her parents Hiram Goad and Eliza Jane Nickolson Goad were living there in 1851. The Nation had it right. Amazing! As a descendent of Attacullaculla (a member of the family by marriage, adoption, and possibly blood), family tradition often solves a lot of these problems. with a Cigarette / Tobacco Retailer permit #21002394 which began on 08/15/2021. Territory-era (1940s-1980s) This section lists notable professional wrestling promoters during the "Golden Age of Professional Wrestling" following the creation of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) in 1948.While most promoters operated specific wrestling "territories" as members of the NWA, a number of so-called "outlaw" promotions were also prominent during this period. ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1751, at birth place, Alabama, to Chief John Trader Crunk Watts Watts (born Watts Cherokee) and WURTAGUA GI-YO-STI-KO-YO-HE Watts Cherokee (born Bird Clan). Hello,Sorry you spent so much time Copying and Pasting My Formally Copyrighted Work, published in LEGEND OF THE WOLF, ISBN Formally Registered Globally, which Proves You a Plagarist Guilty of Formal Copyright Infringement. She died in 1780, in Tennessee, United States, at the age of 25. Only original work can be copyrighted. . Now my question is , is this Ga Ho Ga related to Amatoya Moytoy {1649-1710}? Only the descendants whose Ancestors are on the Dawes can enroll. Missing from the list of children is the man known as The Tail. Almost nothing is known of him except mentions of his participation in raids conducted by John Watts, Doublehead, and Bob Benge. cherokee limestone mesquite washington stafford bastrop harker heights aledo celina elgin wimberley lake dallas tyler . I have been doing research for ten years in hopes to find a roll number to which I can apply for a CDIB card from at Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, OK. James (Chief) Vann is my 3x-gfa, his father Joseph was not a Sephardic Jew who lived our his life in exile in the colonies. Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". Find others researching your family tree. -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me), MARY MCDANIEL IS DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM MCDANIEL AND SU-GI. brother of Talonteskee, born about 1770. SUV LC205979 For Sale at 21st Century Auto Group Springfield 07081 Now I had the surname Moytoy I decided to check for matches on Ancestry and found several all connected to Rainmaker Moytoy. I have no date for her death. This page was last modified 21:36, 17 April 2015. I would love some help from any one . I am related to may of you! I can document the link to both husbands, but cannot document her child with Thomas Ayres., although men who have spent their lives writing and researching the Cherokee in SC and GA, told me that they had always thought that what I have is correct, but that I would never prove it. Her son James (Chief) is my 3x-gfa. Evans, E. Raymond. Robin Moytoy married Rowland Judd and they moved to Wilkes county , NC. But trying to find of there is a roll number. To be recognized by The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma, you must show a relationship with a member who is on the Dawes Rolls. Rebecca Goode Rebecca E Hensley Rebecca Watts Rebecca Elizabeth Watts Rebecca E Watts Becky Goode Rebecca Hensley Becky E Goode Relatives: Mother, father, . 4387482@gmail.com I am searching for a legit family tree for Wut-teh or Wurteh Watts, mother to Sequoyah. Even the Troxel(sp?) My 3rd great grand parents were Caroline Carroll & Powhatan T. Gewin. My great great grandmother was Keziah Jane Hicks who was full blood Cherokee (born in Tennesee on 18 January 1832) married William M. Maxfield (born in Tennesee on 18 April 1821) 11 November 1847 in Rusk County, Texas. Does this mean that if I had a great-uncle that signed Dawes, I can apply to be a part of the Western Cherokee nation? It show how many gens back we are related. The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma. I am NOT susceptible to solicitations from scammers of any kind nor interested in random commenters on this topic, unless you are providing helpful info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_Slave_Revolt_in_the_Cherokee_NationYou should be too ashamed of your family name to even speak on who is and who isn't a real Cherokee. I had been told through my family history we were "par" Cherokee and I knew the line it came from. I love our families history.. Later they moved to Willstown, in what is now Alabama. Ancestry.com is a great place to find these things out especially when you weren't really looking for this. I am also a descendent and am on a path to trace heritage since my deceased mother had set out to do. It has been speculated that Elizabeth Watts had children (but apparently not married) with both Trader John Benge and Nathaniel Gist, although some researchers have expressed doubt regarding this story. Pam chatty_devine@yahoo.com, I believe I am 11th generation descendent of Chief Moytoy. Sorry but how would I know. finding family on the dawes rolls is hard, because a lot of names you may have pop up, but cherokee nation only accepts names between their 7 year requirement and they had to be living in OK . She is from United Kingdom. My family is also related to the Moytoy. Charles Washington Starr. 1847, in DeSota County, Mississippi. Hire a real Cherokee genealogist and accept the DOCUMENTED TRUTH. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. Watts intervened and saved another young boy, handing him to Vann, who put the boy behind him on his horse and later handed him over to three of the Muscogee for safe-keeping. Yes, the Vanns seem an appropriate people to decide who are the real Cherokee and who aren't. Yes, some of Rich Joe Vann's slaves participated in the Slave Revolt. Amazed (not really) at the numbers of people who post but have no clue about the lack of documentation for Moytoy (more than one alleged) and any possible documented living descendants. Can you please tell me, was Amatoya Moytoy Chief Doublehead's grandfather? Each marriage was consummated under the Cherokee laws. I don't see a purpose to it. Have latest post on thejamesscrolls.V/R,Jim. He was not a Cherokee as many believe. So--we are related? Can any one confirm, deny, or suggest research that Mary Bluesky Cornstalk only had two children? Rich Joe, my g-uncle, was killed in 1844 when his steamboat exploded near Louusville. My 9g-Grandfather. Also her parents were William David MCDANIEL b: 1726 in TNMother: Granuaille(*), (**) Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER b: 1725 in Chota, TN.. Granuaille Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER's parents were Chief Kana-gatoga MOYTOY, CALLED HOPPER b: 1690 in Upper Hiwasee, ChotaMother: Su-Gi (CHEROKEE, WOLF CLAN) b: 1695 in Chota, TN. On my other line, I descend directly from Rowes, Albertys and other old Cherokee families. I have relatives on the Dawes rolls. It is wonderful , because I have had an Indian Fedish ,for a Long time. Which should I try to gain membership in? grandmother who was Caroline Carroll. When ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1755, in Cherokee, Washington, Tennessee, United States, her father, John Watts, was 31 and her mother, Tali Wurteh Red Paint Wadi, was 45. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. Inquiring minds want to know!! There was no such person as Mary Bluesky Cornstalk and the name of Parker's second wife, Mary, is unknown. These men seem to have been separated by 100 years!? Doublehead argued for the former, while James Vann advocated the latter. Her first marriage was to a Mr. WHITEWATER, now deceased, and in 1894, she was married to Mr. WATTS. Also related to Pocahontas. I am still a little confused on the wives an children. It was very nice of you to write that. Daliah Wachs, MD, FAAFP. Cornblossom's descendants, through Katie Troxell, led to my East Tennesseean ancestors--Blevins and Buttram. Can the blogger please remove my comment? He notes the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible. I believe Nenetoonyah should be detached from Wurteh. Could Prachy also have been Captain George Parris. And all the deuce dents on both Sides the McGees and Vann was denided clames. here are my direct lineal ancestors which have proved no avail. There is a widespread belief that he was the son of the John Benge who lived with the Cherokee and his white wife. Rodney Willett (D-Henrico) Del. Noone knows if Pride was 'mixed blood' or not. The average lot size on Woods Rd is 15,499 ft2 and the average property tax is $868.7/yr. My grandfather founded the Cherokee Elders Council in 1996. Soldier Sixkiller. He held a prominent position among the Cherokee, and held the hereditary title Ama Matai (From the French matai and Cherokee ama--water), which meant "Water Conjurer." please advise if anyone has answered this. However you are not going to find it since the Cherokee did not have a written language until Sequoyah and history was passed by word of mouth. What to expect; First visit; FAQ; Due was a white trader who had a daughter named Jennie with a Cherokee woman named Elizabeth Emory. About* Elizabeth Watts, LMSW is a social worker in Herkimer, NY. thanks again. I am hoping to find any records of John Ward (my great grandfather) and his wife Emma. . This comment has been removed by the author. I just did DNA and found out through matches and family tree that Im related to Moytoy. 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