cydcor pyramid scheme

Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. You did the right thing, and I hope the prosecutors absolutely demolished your former company. Greatest job I've had - been here 17 years. Depending on what sort of mistakes are happening, that could be a useful tool. Said teacher was a math teacher and writing was not one of his strengths. The HR experience is learning how to interview dozens of people daily and ensnare people into your psychological sales cult. If I go to him and tell him that HR employee A is a problem, hell tell me to work with As manager to train and coach them. First, I cant lie to people, second, trying to sell something which has no benefits is a waste of time. This kind of thinking is exactly what led the people in OPs break room to laugh at their lack of degree. The group is focused on a living charismatic leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment. The owner gets to go on a lot of vacations while the staff does door to door sales all day. I used a phrase that was hyphenated although that was mildly controversial in the field. Unfortunately in some industries, the lack of a degree makes people view you completely differently and they wont take you seriously, regardless of your experience and what you bring to the table. Your solution to your mistake problem begins at home with the self-care you do at home. For public higher education, the state support had decreased by an astonishing amount. This job cuts you off emotionally and is frustrating to the point that you don't realize how much you are cut off in this pyramid scheme and if an employee quits essential they are a black eye and are normalnever referenced or are ridiculed in private. I did eventually get a certification in my field, from an accredited organization again, I did that for myself, because I liked the idea of structured learning, but it wasnt a requirement for my career, and it was pure personal choice. There you go! But if its frequent, there can be value in saying, Im aware of this and Im doing XYZ to address it., 3. Ideally, they would have spoken up in the moment. 1. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2015/02/27/cydcor-ds-max-scam-opinion/. As it is, Im scared of losing this (inconsistent but always higher than minimum wage) paycheck, and Id like to use the promised HR experience to eventually transfer to a more legit company. One woman called him out on it as she had just bought her paper the day before- in response, this salesman of Cydcor for 3 years, was baffled as to what to do besides ask her twice to confirm that the cheaper price was not a special sale price. File your review. But if youre more rushing just to get through it,try setting the work down after youre finished and then come back and recheck it later with fresh eyes. I recently had a recruiter ask if Im interested in leaving X Company. I review for style and content, but not for format, spelling, and punctuation. And I eventually ended up in a career completely unrelated to my degree anyhow (virology degree, work in IT). Noticeably avoiding she for a trans girl and he for a trans guy was not a good move.). Eventually the truth got out that the manager of the team reorganized the team to require a graduate degree because if he were managing only employees with graduate level education he got a sizeable raise and bonus for managinging a highly skilled team. The information is pretty much irrelevant. I apologize for any offense I cause. do NOT rush your review for errors like this. I have a trusted colleague review if I dont have time for seasoning. Good thing theyre not hiring for IT positions; more than half the IT people I know have some sort of liberal arts undergraduate major and either learned IT on the job or did some sort of boot camp. I had a friend who was sucked into a different MLM scam recently. I use these things to help myself as a copywriter. She was sharing it round the watercooler, not with a client during a proposal or bidding process. Im honestly not sure even this would be an issue. Also, Word has a much better spell check. EDIT: I see my thread sort of actually catching on; if something doesn't make sense to you please let me know in the comments and I'll be glad to clarify. At the one recruitment seminar thing I went to, once it was clear that they expected people to sell to their personal networks, I knew i could never make money (I wasnt living near my extended family, which was their main example, and all my friends were broke students and new grades like me) so I told the guy no thank, and he tried to bully me with stuff like Youll regret it with You just need to ~believe in yourself~ more peppered in. You are praised big time if you personally recruit - but to advertise in papers - you can only tell an applicant half truths to get them to try the business out.#3 Definately!#4 Yes! I saw someone above alternating the two pronouns in a response, like He might want you to do that but you should check with them first so you do what he wants and not what you think they want.. In fact, we have been recognized as the most trusted name in customer acquisition, serving FORTUNE 500 and emerging companies since 1994. Someone on her team got a talking-to after they made so many asshole comments that she suggested to the team lead she transition out of it so someone whose credentials met [asshole]s needs could be added, and the team lead told the asshole that she was far more valuable to the project than he was and, given the choice, he was going to keep her before him. You were called into an interview, and basically bullied into a job. I know when I find out a peers highest degree is HS I tend to be surprised since the job description requires a degree, then a little dismayed. Its not asking whether he wants to revert to previous pronouns, its just checking that they want them used in this context. Loss of nearly $300 for new slacks, shoes, and gas money to get to the two interviews and my first day of work once I was hired. On the rare occasion that college education or lack thereof was mentioned, most people were kind of surprised but that was about the extent of the conversations. One red flag I noticed: all pictures of employees were taken on the same day if you click through the multiple tabs "home", "about us", "careers". Weird vibes from the guy as if they dressed a meth dealer in nice clothes and gave him a back story to regurgitate. If they have to apply with their official name, you could always refer to them as Susan Bradley Smith or Susan [Bradley] Smith once and then use their preferred name the rest of the way. People there are just brainwashed robots who cannot think for themselves. The more differences there are, the more easily your brain can see it as new, needs review.. Which is genuinely what happened, and means that my jobs with more legitimate skills/achievements dont get pushed off the page. I don't see it as a con, yet for some, they may perceive the strive to continue to improve as a con so it may not be a fit for all people. I believe it man, there's a lot of stuff out there like this. 4) you will have 3 interviews most likely: a- basic interview with manager to see if you are ambtious, independent, and easily manipulated/ b- day of observation where one of the "leaders" takes you on a day of door to door sales, pays for your lunch, and explains how this pyramid scheme isnt a pyramid because you dont lose the money you make . So figure out what it takes for rushing and tired you to not make that particular error again. All of their reviews are the same people. Just a second set of eyes. On the ground level, its set up like a normal sales job; pays when you sell, and doesnt when you dont. Of course, I knew my mom would never give out my information without my permission, but I couldnt explain how this person knew this combination of things about me. reading the text aloud or consciously concentrating on reading every single word or symbol helps. Day 2: After another ridiculous set of morning rituals, my boss asks me how excited I am to hit the "field" -- I ensured I was excited, but I didn't know what the hell the "field" was. Plus really research costs and how much a degree will realistically add to your salary. IT didnt matter to them if you made no money because they only paid commission, so they lost nothing if you made no sales. Heres what worked for me: 1) Try to find the root cause of errors: Id look for areas where I usually made mistakes, and tried to figure out what was causing it. This is why a second person is so important. This employer has claimed their Employer Profile and is engaged in the Glassdoor community. Which, is why I pick a second person who is not the person Im trying to impress. I quickly realized what a scam it was, having to show up for two meetings daily to motivate and debrief, chanting and brainwashing. You dont need an audience either. (If you do this, make a point of slowing down to type it correctly anyway. Swapped 2 of the letters. To my knowledge, that would just mean that its perfectly safe to use either. Even better without an audience, IMO. Ive been working for one of Cydcors ICLs. Exactly. When I first started, about 25 years ago, a degree was nice to have. Is GroupM a good company to work for? Again, I am so sorry. Checklists are gold for consistent proofing and you can add another step if a new error crops up. Brains are not good at seeing what you *actually* wrote instead of what you think you wrote. So 1 or 2 would be fine. If the name Susan is on his application somewhere as the name he uses, just use that. I work in quality. If you are in the 1% you will make $1-$2k per month while ruining your life. As for how they make money since we dont have to buy stuff, Im assuming its from the outside companies were doing sales for. :/. OP may need to do this. I actually felt really bad about leaving at first because I thought I was throwing away the biggest opportunity ever. I would be completely unsurprised if it was not OK, and when you contact someone, they say Oh, THAT company again!. The recruitment process is what makes Cydcor a scam. If you have a specific typo (or several), consider putting it into autocorrect. And um Americans can sometimes be a bit too optimistic about their countrys legal system. also there will be unexplained "cancellations" on your checks so its even worse than you expect. schools require the legal name and might not have a place on application for preferred name. Seems like a solid job right? Cydcor achieves success in meeting its clients' customer acquisition goals by creating a culture of opportunity within a team-oriented, positive, nurturing environment - which benefits clients and employees alike. You dont say Pat (who uses he pronouns) just because there are Pats with she or they pronouns. Not only does he get paid more than me every month, he also gets an annual bonus. Im in the same frame of mind as you and WellRed. I said a mix of both would be nice, and she said to start off you would be outside 75% of the time. how much social media use at work is too much? Perhaps this is overly optimistic of me, but as someone who works in higher ed in the US, Id be a little surprised if someone who works in student affairs or admissions today had zero familiarity with people using they/them pronouns. My point was to encourage OP to look into it. I didnt last long there. Ive only recently learned much about MLMs (although Im just gonna say I LOVE my Tupperware!) I will close with a little background on Cydcor and it's companies. Speaking as a college professor, there are few of us who are unfamiliar with non-binary individuals. I had this problem in my last job and even though there were plenty of external indicators that the lack of time=careless mistakes, this never registered for my supervisor until I explicitly told her. I work in the life sciences (one of those places where you usually need a degree because of the specific things you learn getting that degree), but one of our best lab folks had a BA in music (I never quite got the story of how she went from music to cancer biology). It is true. Sometimes I get stuff kicked back to me and I am just truly baffled and mortified that I possibly could have missed it. You > Them. They can be very helpful in helping make sure everythings there, and also in giving some structure to your process. Mainly due to compensation issues as well. If the LW specified, they seem to not trying to mask it. Retail is not a terrible option by comparison. Elaborations below, this sort of stuff isn't for the faint of heart, First of all, some background on the company: http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2015/02/27/cydcor-ds-max-scam-opinion/. And if a man by the name of Michael Sessions has anything to do with anything, stay far far away. (Universal Design isnt just to help people with disabilities). |. For the most part these managers aren't even paying attention, all they are wondering is if this person would ever work here. It really does help. (UK back into lockdown and Ive had panic attacks most of the day). Thats not really relevant there are a lot of things that people do that are not legal. Then my boss treated me poorly as a result because she thought I was after her job or trying to undermine her if I ever asked a question about anything. Yeah, this is something I recommend to my clients. Mind-numbing techniques are used to suppress doubts about the group or its leader(s).6. Its after midnight and I am tired. You can use Hemingway in your browser at hemingwayapp dot com. I also dont have a degree, which is unusual in my field. Presumably she only got that information through her role in HR, and not general knowledge. so anything other than block text needs extra scrutiny. Best not to. Each of those has a different solution, which could be as simple as more proofreading (in the case of the first two) all the way up to more training (in the case of the last one). Also, its often an option to use the name more and the pronouns less, should you choose. Shed fire them. So if someone in the group is negative - you don't want to socialize with that person. LW2, if the material is not confidential and one of your reports has a decent eye for errors, this could be a good thing to ask them to work with you on. I know it was long. Personally, I use different pronouns at work, with friends, and with different family members. Yes. I work in one of the most academically snobby fields there is (having a degree is not even good enough its got to be a degree from a highly-selective school), and it gives me some delight that one of the most highly compensated and pretty much indispensable people has only a high school degree and has no problem directly calling BS on those who make disparaging comments about peoples educations. I hope she realizes what a trap she's in and gets out of it. Getting one for a job that genuinely requires the skills you can only get that way, sure. OP3 I went to Uni but never finished (I hated the program, and it was not something I pursued as a career, nor, in retrospect, was it something I ever wanted a career in). Yes Ive done quite a bit of work producing client-facing print materials (newsletters, reports, event advertisements, event agendas, etc.) Oh and I was actually fired. I havent heard of Cydcor, but most MLMs are scams and will absolutely elicit a negative response on your resume. They dont need to keep people, they just need to keep people long enough to get some work out of them that is essentially free labor due to the horrible commissions. When you use this technique explanations such as, I was rushing, I was tired etc all get chucked to one side. No need to alternate, necessarily I think that would be unnecessary and more confusing. I'm currently at an office that is under cydcor doing customer acquisition and I'm making great great money. Then Id begin to question why they so desperately needed that info. The website is extremely well done -- and appears to be completely legit. I got this on my college email but it doesnt look is this a scam.. someone please help asap . I also come from a blue collar family, of people who are also proud of what they do, and I would never dream of making fun of someone for having less education. Go to community college and work toward a degree. Sign in. I hope that this will come back to bight them in the you know what. You could say Susan Smith (he/they) as part of the letter. I wish I had saved the money and bought a house instead. They lie about how much you can eventually make. Reading everything out loud, too. LW #2 one of my favorite things about my current workplace is that theres a robust culture of asking others to look over important emails/documents before sending them. I would use a search find for the first half of it, to make sure no use was slipping by not properly hyphenated. Youd honestly probably be better getting a job in fast food or at Target. I felt nothing but pity for the poor girl that tried to 'train' us. I'll never have the person to dance with me in the kitchen to old 70's music, Sign in to comment to your favorite stories, participate in your community and interact with your friends. Ithank you. That HR person should be fired. But if your relationship is primarily functional, revolving around substantive academic advice, and they werent confiding in you but simply updating you with their pronouns for informational reasons, honestly I would not. Especially nowadays I feel like theres been enough of a shift that if not having a degree isnt holding you back, then dont bother unless you really want to get a degree. #3 please never feel ashamed about any degree level. There are a few phrases that trigger a hard ignore. You cant even name the problem and glean the extent of its malignancy, much less try to begin treating it, if the issue itself becomes a taboo wrapped in a stigma. Im glad you are safe and well. Being able to put a different company name on your resume might mitigate the problem somewhat, but if a savvy interviewer digs into what the company really is, its going to be a problem. 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